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SF writer @KarlSchroeder with a thought experiment on robots and shoplifting: kschroeder.substack.com/p/shou

this frame may help you think about #capitalism, property ownership, the commons, privacy, and who benefits from laws.

under capitalism, it's always been punishable to steal to survive, but there's never *really* been punishment for ramping up oppression to maximally extract from people, aka steal from people. [see wage theft for example...] we need to think hard about this problem and act to change it, and uh, MORE PUNISHMENT is not the fix!!

(also, if we step outside of Thought Experiment Land, I will be truly shocked if autonomous robots work well enough and are cheap enough to produce in my lifetime that non-elites will own them as anything beyond a toy or attempted status marker, but you sure never do know)

kschroeder.substack.comShould a Teslabot Shoplift?What's more important: people, or property?

@dgfitch @KarlSchroeder

A lot of people view the cruelty of capitalism as just a straight forward consequence of market incentives: profit maximization, arbitrage of information asymmetry, etc.

This is definitely true, but it's also a consequence of the unholy marriage of markets to (state-enforced) property rights. A straightforward view of market incentives under capitalism necessarily reveals that capitalist competition involves expanding the domains under which property rights apply.

MidniteMikeWrites

@dgfitch @KarlSchroeder

“Enclosure” is one of the default modes of capitalism. Capture or otherwise subject some space to the logic of a specific set of private interests so that rent (or profits) can be derived.

That's what's behind , creep destroying the , the growth of , and the explosion of the "access" and

Only solace is that this is very much so a political project and not the natural state of things. We can fight back.