Another Brexit fiasco.... British cheeses failed to get to the World Cheese Awards in Portugal as they failed to clear customs in time (now being from a non-EU country).
In the scale of the disasters of Brexit its not going to to be a big thing (although it will be for the frustrated cheese makers), but is emblematic of how myopic the Brexiters were about the impact of their successful plan to leave Europe....
@ChrisMayLA6 cheers buddy. Is the Christmas cheese board now under threat?
You'll be fine (in the UK) if it British cheese you want.... not so much (again if its British cheese you want) if you're in the EU!
@ChrisMayLA6 plan to leave Europe? They had a plan?!
@ChrisMayLA6 Surely you meant a "Brexit Bonus".
Ha ha, as someone who really doesn't like cheese at all.... I feel seen
@ChrisMayLA6 I quite like cheese, but I don't remember any dairy farmers and cheese makers shouting about the dangers of Brexit to their livelihoods. So they can suffer the consequences.
Yes, that' always at the back of my mind, too
@ChrisMayLA6 At the time of the campaign, and in the protests after, I'd said, so many times that Brexit wouldn't directly harm me too much. But would screw those idiots demanding it. And so it's been.
@ChrisMayLA6 I think we should be careful here. Let us first ask, are there other non-EU countries represented at the competition? And if so, how come they managed to get their cheese there? It seems to me that this is a fiasco of an administrator at the UK cheese federation and not a brexit fiasco.
Well, the report seemed to indicate it was British cheeses that were caught out... but equally, I'd not dismiss the suggestion the UK Cheese Council (or whatever its called) didn't prepare makers for the non-EU status well-enough - so rather than an either/or, may be a both!
@ChrisMayLA6 The article does not say it was due to Brexit. As the organiser pointed out it was far more difficult to get cheeses from South Africa than UK. All the border checks were followed but beaten by Portuguese bureaucracy.
Wellll.... of course Brexit made out situation regarding cross border movement the same as South Africa, and not like a fellow EU member.... so in that sense Brexit changed our designation... so surely a Brexit issue?
@ChrisMayLA6 no. South African and other non EU cheeses arrived. Unless you think ours were blocked on purpose. Hasn’t been a problem in previous years
I think more likely the SA cheese makes had a clear idea what was required (both in timing & in paperwork) to get them there on time, while the UK crew were less well prepared.... of course I cannot rule out deliberate obstruction
@ChrisMayLA6 I’ll be visiting someone who I believe was a judge there in his shop in Nantwich. Will ask.
@ChrisMayLA6 I can't lie. I laughed when I read that
Brexit was incited by Russian disinformation & right wing elites weaponizing anti-migrant bigotry.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-racism-immigrant-prejudice-major-factor-leave-vote-win-study-a7801676.html
https://www.vox.com/2016/6/25/12029786/brexit-uk-eu-immigration-xenophobia
https://tmg-uk.org/news/brexit-anti-immigrant-prejudice-and-voting-patterns
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37193140
As Heather McGhee's book "The Sum of Us" describes, bigots are willing to give up a lot to keep something as useful as bigotry alive.
Give up the bigotry & Russia's "divide & conquer" lies loses its efficacy.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/21/russian-meddling-brexit-referendum-tories-russia-report-government
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum
https://www.csis.org/blogs/brexit-bits-bobs-and-blogs/did-russia-influence-brexit
@Npars01 @ChrisMayLA6 Quite likely. But the seeds of Brexit were planted much earlier and drip-fed for decades. "Straight Cucumbers" and the rest. Constant demonising with a back story of Xenophobia.
Yup, I'd agree; the EU had been a useful scapegoat & target for years, often by people/politicians who then moaned about the vote to leave....
@ChrisMayLA6 @Npars01 It was a Shibboleth for parts of the Tory Right. A way to identify together. Because the enemies were the French and Germans, as ever. But neatly bundled. Also, the EU's collective and by comparison liberal ethos was an anathema. And so on.
that is not really surprising now, is it?
@Npars01 @DelilahTech @ChrisMayLA6 Old news but at least someone’s actually reporting it. More than most…
@ChrisMayLA6 Not just a third country, now...a third world country.
@ChrisMayLA6 brexit beneifits anyone? what a fucking shitshow.
@ChrisMayLA6 I could never understand how you guys did that (brexit) to yourselves....but now here in the US...well, we've certainly done our best to top your decision...race is on to see who can ruin their economy/society faster.
welcome to the doomsday cult....
@Kingfisher @ChrisMayLA6 Mrs Brown's Boys is one of the most popular comedies on British television. It is not funny. The fact that so many British people like this outdated unfunny comedy show is the reason we voted to leave the EU. If you look it up it'll all make sense to you!
I've never made it past five minutes.... perhaps I should watch it with an anthropological mindset?
@ChrisMayLA6 @Kingfisher I'm not sure even that would make it bearable! It's a sad indictment of our British culture lol. But then I don't really find much British comedy that funny... Although I was surprised by how much I liked Ghosts. So I guess I can occasionally move with the crowd.
Now Ghosts; that's altogether funnier & classier TV
@ChrisMayLA6 @Kingfisher it is. So well written and acted. I even cared about the characters which is very un-me. Mainly because I really dislike being told to care. But if you simply write good characters, then I can make that decision without the help of narrative sign posts.
@ChrisMayLA6 A counter perspective holds that the framers of the EU were myopic in designing the single currency so that it deprives member states of monetary sovereignty, crippling their ability to respond to domestic crises (e.g., Greece).
I find that perspective (articulated in Mitchell & Fazi's Reclaiming the State: A Progressive Vision of Sovereignty for a Post-Neoliberal World) persuasive.
Could it be that the Euro is a fatal flaw hiding in plain sight?
https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745337326/reclaiming-the-state/
There's an interesting about the relation between single currency & single market... but certainly in the UK, the advantages (so-called) of the Euro were received very sceptically