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Dr Keith Wilson 💭UK students shouldn’t see a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/studentLoan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#studentLoan</a> as a debt, but as a tax: an additional 9% on their earnings above the threshold. Some will pay it off, but many won’t. In which case it will reduce their potential future earnings more or less indefinitely. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HigherEducation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HigherEducation</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TuitionFees" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TuitionFees</a>

Adam Jacobs 🇺🇦And just to remind you what Starmer promised when he was standing for Labour leader, he promised to "support the abolition of tuition fees".Putting them up is not the same thing as abolition.<a href="https://mas.to/tags/TuitionFees" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TuitionFees</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Starmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Starmer</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/BrokenPromises" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BrokenPromises</a><a href="https://www.clpd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Keir-Starmers-10-Pledges.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.clpd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Keir-Starmers-10-Pledges.pdf</a>

Adam Jacobs 🇺🇦Ah, more "tough decisions" I see, which again are not remotely tough for the rich and powerful.Just like all the other "tough decisions".<a href="https://mas.to/tags/TuitionFees" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TuitionFees</a><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c0qdgndz5wzt" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c0qdgndz5wzt</a>

Emeritus Prof Christopher MayAs the <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/LabourParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#LabourParty</a> starts (ahead of the next election) to rethink its position on <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/tuitionfees" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#tuitionfees</a> (having, like the LibDems before them stepped back from a promise to abolition them), here are my thoughts on how we might best understand the discussion of funding students' attendance at <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/university" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#university</a> (both tuition fees & living costs)Key point: its all about who we think captures the benefit(s) of a <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/university" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#university</a> education!<a href="https://mastodon.social/@NWBylines" class="u-url mention">@NWBylines</a> <a href="https://northwestbylines.co.uk/news/education/who-should-pay-for-students-to-go-to-university/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no">https://northwestbylines.co.uk/news/education/who-should-pay-for-students-to-go-to-university/</a>

Emeritus Prof Christopher MayMartin Lewis is still right: <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/university" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#university</a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/tuitionfees" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#tuitionfees</a> are repaid not as a loan but via a shadow <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/graduatetax" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#graduatetax</a>... he also makes the central policy point:university students' funding is about the balance between social benefits & those captured by individuals;recovering the full cost, we're saying there's no social benefit; by making it completely free we say the individual gets no advantage(s);that's why I always supported the £3000 fee as a fair sharing of costs!<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/may/13/martin-lewis-graduates-student-loans-finance-graduate-tax" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no">https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/may/13/martin-lewis-graduates-student-loans-finance-graduate-tax</a>

Emeritus Prof Christopher MayHere's Polly Toynbee's view on where extra money in <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/education" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#education</a> should be spent & its not on reducing <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/university" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#university</a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/tuitionfees" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#tuitionfees</a>;while I agree with much of her argument about early years education (which definitely needs re-funding), if as she concludes, we want to (also) expand university education, then reforming tuition fees (and overall HE funding) is also necessary.In the end; the UK needs a massive rethink of how it delivers & pays for all its levels of education!<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/04/keir-starmer-tuition-fees-education-universities-schools" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/04/keir-starmer-tuition-fees-education-universities-schools</a>

Emeritus Prof Christopher MayWell I suppose at least <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/KeirStarmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#KeirStarmer</a> has dropped his <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/university" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#university</a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/tuitionfees" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#tuitionfees</a> pledge (to make university free) before any <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/generalelection" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#generalelection</a> rather than (like <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/NickClegg" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NickClegg</a>) afterwards.... instead he is promising a 'fairer' solution, with details to follow.certainly something needs to change, but the Q. is how to shift the cost structure to make it fair(er) without causing further damage to the financial settlement for <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/HigherEducation" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#HigherEducation</a> - it won't be easy

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