Rather than (once again) 'cracking down' on benefits cheats (who as research has shown again & again are actually a pretty small group), perhaps the Govt. might find it more cost effective to encourage the HMRC to find ways to get Roman Abramovic to pay the £1bn in taxes he owes....
Oh wait minute, he's rich & therefore someone to be treated carefully (and asked politely) while people on benefits, well they're just scammers, aren't they.... /s
@ChrisMayLA6
I have no doubt there are some people getting benefits who shouldn't.
They are few and I never lose sleep over it.
What is important is that 100% of people who do need benefits receive them.
Universal Basic Income for all.
Cheap and efficient to implement and it ensures that the safety net really works.
Any excess income (whether via earning or investments) would be repaid via taxation.
Unless I’m missing something, this would be fair, humane, and efficient and it would reduce the risks of harm through the pressures on mental health and malnutrition which would also save on the UK’s NHS.
Simples
@ChrisMayLA6 @TCMuffin @leighms That's less of an issue in my view because I think there's a few myths there about how motivation really works, but also it shifts the emphasis onto employers to make more attractive places to work - like how the free market's supposed to work - and free workers from being a captive audience. How much longer would toxic cultures exist for if everyone has, excuse my English quoting The Gambler, "Fuck you money"?
https://youtu.be/XamC7-Pt8N0?si=7nAw83bzY4EMtbGw
@freequaybuoy @TCMuffin @leighms
I don't disagree on one level, provided one accepts that motivation is a toggle switch - you're either at work or not.... however, having seen at first hand how promotions work (from both sides), I'm not so sure that this covers the more fine-grained motivations & incentives within a workplace.
@ChrisMayLA6 @TCMuffin @leighms Well, starting with innovation and risk taking, consider somewhere it's notoriously absent - the public sector. Why? It's all risk and no reward. But with UBI, there's *less* risk taking risks because you have the F You Money. And this feeds into incentive to work - work gives you more disposable income or Walking Around Money but also is more likely something you're doing because you want to, and so innovation or the desire to innovate is probably part of that.
@ChrisMayLA6 @TCMuffin @leighms And it's far from clear that people only want to work for the financial incentive. Yes we *have* to to survive, but that is *not* what defines employee motivation - salary is *not* a motivating factor, at least according to Herzberg. Yes, we're talking about more fulfilling kinds of roles rather than the menial. But UBI appears to be hand in hand with increasing automation in the zeitgeist.
https://www.businessballs.com/improving-workplace-performance/to-what-extent-is-money-a-motivator/
@freequaybuoy @TCMuffin @leighms
I should add that I like the idea of UBI, just having some difficulty trying to see how it copes with some aspect of economic organisation - these are not impossible issues to resolve but may not also be easily solved by just a basic UBI
@freequaybuoy @TCMuffin @leighms
I'll go with the freedom to innovate, but I'm less convinced that UBI would support the commercialisation/massification of any new innovation... i.e. the had, but often less interesting work of 'bringing it to market'
@ChrisMayLA6 @TCMuffin
I have been very lucky in my working life to mostly have had jobs that I have enjoyed and been interested in.
This is not the case for most people.
There have been times when I have done rubbish jobs purely for the money. There were people in those workplaces who had been there many years.
Back then the hot topic was automation taking over people's jobs. Increasing automation driven by AI replacing more unskilled roles; warehouse, delivery, self-,checkout and many more are going to limit the opportunities for unskilled folk. Even more skilled sectors are being replaced by AI.
Maybe the idea of this basic universal benefit could be revisited.
A brutalist approach might be that there needs to be a driver to push the population trend downward. With fewer people able to find employment there is going to be less tax income to support benefits.
Perhaps we are at or close to this point.
I thought the ideal opportunity to introduce UBI was during the pandemic.
The support the government handed out to businesses would have been better deployed providing UBI to everyone.
This would also be much less subject to corruption when already rich people squirreled government money away in off-shore accounts rather than spending it in our communities.
@ChrisMayLA6 @TCMuffin
TBH haven't read any of his.
Will add it to my reading list
Added to mine too…thank you, Chris